Posts by Sour Grapes

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What will the JW religion be like in 2015?

by JimmyPage in

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over 100 years into the reign of christ and six more years of damage from the internet.

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what do you envision?.

Sour Grapes

I don't think that anything will change. How many stayed after being promised that

1975 will be the end? That was 34 years ago. My mom believed the end was coming

in the early 1960's and now she says "just think how much closer we are now than

then."

As long as there are people who need structure in their lifes, people who can't make

a decision, people who like being told what to do, people who have disablities that

will be gone in Paradise, people who lost loved ones and want to see them again on

earth, people who have family members who are JW's, there will remain the JW religion.

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Lurkers and Jehovah's Witnesses- The WT Lied to you about " Generation "

by flipper in

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i know this has been re-hashed many times here.

in great detail with quotes from former watchtower articles, etc.

i'm going to cut to the chase and just make this brief and direct.

Sour Grapes

Thanks Flipper. I was promised that I would not finish high school.

Well guess what? I did finish hight school. My children finished high

school and now I have two grandchildren in high school. But just

think how much closer we are NOW to the end then when these

promises (lies) we made to us poor suckers.

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Even in their prayers they prove that they are a cult.

by Sour Grapes in

at the meeting sunday the brother giving one of the prayers said.

"that we than you for your organization because people who are outside.

of the congregation are corrupt and wicked.".

Sour Grapes

At the meeting Sunday the Brother giving one of the prayers said

"that we than You for your organization because people who are outside

of the congregation are corrupt and wicked."

At my employment I deal with hundreds of people who are not JW's

and I don't know of one who is corrupt or wicked. Most of them are

God fearing people who go out of their way to help people.

Sour Grapes

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Confessed my Doubts to my Wife

by cantleave in

well - i today i had the opportunity to tell my wife i no longer believe in the things that i have spent my life immersed in and that i didn't want my life run by 9 geriatrics in brooklyn.. her reaction was understandable her first questions was "what have you been reading"?.

i didn't mention this site but told her i was shocked by something i heard regarding the wts's ngo status with the un, dissapointed by the new light on the generation and disturbed by the flip flopping on blood fractions.

i explained how these things were at best hypocritical and at worst have meant some people have lost their lives unnecessarily because of the societies previous position.

Sour Grapes

I have had similar dscussions with my wife and she just gets mad at me.

However she is slowing down in her activity and her conscience does not bother

her like it used to. Any one with common sense can see that the WTBTS's

teaching are not based upon the Bible.

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When will they realise that the bus isn't coming?

by eyeslice in

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i was still a kid and living at home at the time, and so that must have been well over 30 years ago, that i heard ron drage (now a senior member of the uk bethel) say "if you are waiting at the bus stop it, is better to be 10 minutes early rather than miss it".

what he was referring to of course was the then then 1975 issue; in other words armageddon has arrived yet but it just round the corner and we are a little early for it.. i don't know what brought this to my mind the other day but i got to thinking, surely if you are waiting for a bus and you get there 10 minutes early and it doesn't then turn up, how long do you wait?

10 minutes, 15 minutes, half an hour, an hour, two hours?

Sour Grapes

Nice illustration. It shows the folly of living ones life around

a date that never comes.

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TURN IN YOUR DAMN TIME - IT'S THE 5TH...

by tresdecu in

i hate turning in time, even though it's phantom.

do you think they phase this out soon???

especially now that they spend so much time doctoring up the stats to make them look good.. anybody out there with some inside info?.

Sour Grapes

The Witchtower Babbel and Trick Society will always want the pubs

to turn in their time. If turning time in was not a requirement there

would be a tremendous drop in the door to door work. All that I

hear at the KH is "I am low in hours", or "I have to get my time up",

or "how much time should we count for yesterday".

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watch an example of signals going on all around you....you're not in on it

by ninja in

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http://cache.gettyimages.com/xd/2045-61.mov?c=newsmaker&d=877eefc4dacd560b51123940768c98ceec7c5022fb410d56&k=2&v=1.

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pish

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The desperation of JWs hoping the end comes "soon"

by sir82 in

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i'm starting to sense a certain desperation among jws, that they feel that the great tribulation must start soon.

i think this is due, in many cases, to their own personal situation, financial or otherwise.. if the gt doesn't come soon, and these guys really start to suffer - what then?

the watchtower's promises that "jehovah would not forsake them if they put kingdom interests first" by skipping or dropping out of college, turning down promotions, "simplifying" their lives by selling their homes and moving to the hinterlands...will all prove to be meaningless.. if the gt doesn't come soon, and "jehovah" doesn't bail them out...then what?.

Sour Grapes

This is really a good topic because I like so many here have been impacted

by the lies of the Witchtower Babel and Trick Society. Recently I was

visiting with some of my "in the Truth" family and they are struggling

with economic conditions. One of them said that things are so bad now that

the end has just got to be near. I told him that things were alot worse during the

Great Depression and WWII. He just gave me a weird look.

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When Did You First Get Exposed To "Apostate" Info? How Did It Affect You?

by minimus in

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as a kid, i used to read all the watchtowers of the 40s and 50s to see how the present day information developed from its original "thought".

i was exposed to many eye opening statements but i swept them under the carpet (although it stayed in the recesses of my brain) until the time was right.. so for me, it was a gradual thing.. how were you affected by your first encounters with "apostate" material?

?.

Sour Grapes

I learned the truth about the truth from a Bethel elder who caught

caught up in the mess when Franz was getting booted out.

I for some reason I was not disappointed or upset , it just added to my

existing doubts.

Sour Grapes

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Is The WTS Getting Desperate for Males? KM Aug 2009

by Hopscotch in

just thought this article was interesting in view of what has been said in the last couple of years on the forum about the declining number of elders and servants and those reaching out.

add to that the large percentage of young teenage boys who leave 'the truth'.

i can't ever remember this much space in a km being devoted to converting men.. para 2 states: "when a family head accepts the truth, he often influences others in the family to join him in pure worship".

Sour Grapes

At the Hall that I go to there are several mature Brothers who give

good talks, good comments, and one is even a pioneer and they are not

even ministerial servants. They just don't want the work and extra

headaches.

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